Sep 9, 2009
Why mp3s suck, and how to hear it
I hate mp3, and this post will tell you why.
DO NOT read this post if you have a large collection of mp3s, enjoy listening to them and can’t hear any problems with them, because it’ll ruin them for you !
There’s been plenty written on how mp3 works, and why lossy compression sounds worse than uncompressed audio in general. My aim here is to demonstrate how mp3 sounds bad, for all the people who keep telling me there’s no difference.
I’m going to give you clear guidelines and examples on what to listen for and the negative effects of mp3, but there’s no going back – once you can hear the problems, you’ll never stop hearing them.
This isn’t limited to audiophiles, or “golden ears”, by the way – in my opinion anyone can hear this stuff, with a few pointers.
So seriously, unless you’re prepared to start using Ogg Vorbis, FLAC or AAC - stop reading now !
Still here ? Good.
First, I need to make this clear – I have nothing against lossy audio or data compression in itself – I do most of my casual listening on an iPod, using 128kbps AAC files – they sound fine. Not as good as the original CDs, obviously, but OK. And yes, I’m well aware that AAC is just a more advanced version of mp3. But the fact is that mp3 has fundamental limitations – even at higher bitrates.
Next – I’m also a pragmatist. mp3 is a temporary phenomenon, just like AM radio, cassettes and CDs. In the long run, none of those have killed music, and neither will mp3, or lossy compression in general. So, why the rant ?
Because people keep saying mp3 sounds great, or “indistinguishable from CD” and it’s just not true.
mp3 isn’t good enough
It doesn’t matter what encoder you use, it doesn’t matter what settings you use or what pre-processing you apply – mp3 just doesn’t cut it. AAC and later, more sophisticated encoders use more advanced encoding methods, and sound better to varying degrees, but mp3 just FAILs.
How does it fail ? That depends a little on the encoder being used, but some of my own pet hates include:
- mp3 sizzle – the artificial, unnatural swirling metallic noises that sound like someone’s added chime bars to everything, or there’s a mosquito buzzing in your ear. Some people actually say we prefer these noises in mp3s – I say bullshizzle !
- Added distortion – Yet another side effect of the so-called Loudness Wars. mp3 encoders rarely include any headroom for the encoding process itself, so the added processing pushes the music even further over the limits, generating inter-sample peaks and adding even more distortion in the process
- Flat, two-dimensional sound mp3 works by throwing away musical information that we supposedly can’t hear – up to 90% of the original information, at 128kbps. That means all the subtle, delicate stuff, like ambience, space and realism. So a lush, three-dimension original is reduced to a flat, cardboard replica of itself
- Mushiness All but the very best mp3 encodes just sound fuzzy, muddled and – well, mushy !
Hear for yourself
Don’t take my word for it – here are some examples. First, a truly nasty 128kbps mp3 example, from a Deep Purple live album I mixed a while back:
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(Before anyone jumps on me, I’ve heard even a 256 kbps mp3s sounding like this – I’ve just used a low quality version to make the point.)
If that doesn’t sound too bad to you at first, try this - I’ve filtered the file to highlight the high frequencies. You can hear the problems most clearly when the vocals start:
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Some people describe this effect as “sizzle”, or “swirlies”. It’s not just that I’ve removed all the bass, what I’m pointing out is the unatural bubbling, twinkling “chime-bar” type sound, or as my friend and fellow mastering engineer Nick Watson once called it, the “flocks of tweeting ultrasonic birdies”. It also reminds me of someone crinkling up tin foil !
Once you’ve picked it out, listen the first version again. Doesn’t sound so nice now, does it ? Can you ignore the swirlies, now you know they are there ?
Now download and listen to the original file:
‘Talk About Love – Excerpt’ – 5 MB WAV file
Listen to the clarity, punch, and bite of the WAV, compared to the swirly, soggy mess of an mp3. Which one do you prefer ?
The loss of depth, richness and three-dimensionality is more subtle side-effect, but just as unfortunate. Here’s a snippet of a recording I did for the brilliant Hans Koller, featuring Christine Tobin on vocals:
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(This is a much better mp3 encode, with far fewer heinous swirlies. But still…)
Here’s the WAV version:
‘The Great Bear And The Small – Excerpt’ – 11 MB WAV File
Don’t expect the difference here to leap out at you straight away, it’s more a case of feeling it – listen to the swirls of the harp from 30 seconds in, listen to the piano and Christine’s voice – on the wav file, there’s a warmth, and a depth, and a sparkle that in the mp3 has just gone.
Listen to the wav several times over, then switch to the mp3. Do you honestly feel it sounds as good ? The mp3 is OK, but it’s just… meh. I’m not drawn in, my attention wanders, it doesn’t move me.
Something essential has been lost, and you can’t get it back. And once you’ve heard that loss, even cranking the data-rate up doesn’t help. The only solution is a more advanced format, or lossless files.
Try listening to the mp3s in your music collection. Go back and compare them to the CDs you ripped them from.
…Sorry.
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Update: I’ve had lots of interest in this post, and lots of discussion, especially on link-sharing sites. There are a few common responses that I want to answer here.
No-one uses 128 kbps mp3s
Wrong. If you’ve made this comment, you probably already know about LAME and the all other flavours of mp3 codec, and you probably do choose to use higher bit-rates, but you’re in the minority. Most “regular listeners” go for the default settings – and even in iTunes this is only 160 kbps.
192/320 kbps sounds fine
Sometimes. This depends so heavily on the material, the encoder and the codec – you simply can’t make blanket assumptions. Ironically one of the factors that makes mp3 so popular – the fact that it’s free and open-source – also makes it far harder to get a decent encode. By contrast, the grip Apple have over the AAC format at least ensures consistently high standards of encoding.
You’re just an Apple fanboy
No. Well alright, yes – I am a big fan of Apple’s products, but there are plenty of other alternatives to mp3 – OGG Vorbis, FLAC etc. The only reason I mention AAC a lot is it’s a format I have deep experience of, and always sounded good (but not perfect !) to me.
And another thing
To everyone who keeps saying “just use 320 kbps”, I say – why ?!? mp3 simply has inherent limitations compared to other formats. The whole point of lossy audio is to save space. At 128 kbps that saving is 90% – well worth having. At 320 kbps though, that saving is only 60% and it still doesn’t sound great – I’d rather go with FLAC or Apple lossless, which can often achieve a 50% saving, and have something that sounds every bit as good as the source.
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I am not an expert on any of this but is there any digital music that replaces the clipped audio to make it a digital signal?
I guess I’m really tired of reading such grossly oversimplifying, pointless rants which seem to based on some snobbish attitude rather than on facts.
Despite of being theoretically(!) inferior to AAC, the design deficits of MP3 are compensated by more advanced psychoaccoustic models used by modern MP3 encoders. There have been many listening tests prooving that modern MP3 encoders compete well with AAC and outperform Ogg Vorbis at bitrates > 128kbps.
In fact the last scientifically conducted listening test showed that all(!!) modern MP3 encoders outperformed iTunes AAC at 128kbp average bitrate (http://listening-tests.hydrogenaudio.org/sebastian/mp3-128-1/results.htm). The often claimed inferiorty of MP3 is a myth based on the ugly performance of some MP3 encoders 10 years ago! The incredible development MP3 encoders have taken since was due to the competition between the open source Lame encoder and the commercial encoders. AAC remains unattractive for me as long as there’s no open source equivalent to Lame. Of course lessless compression should be considered an important alternative to MP3, as it is free from the drawbacks of lossy formats and disk space is continously increasing. Again, the most mature and widely supported standard is open source FLAC – for the same good reason that Lame became the most widespread MP3 encoder. The ~256kbps Lame mp3s offered these days by Amazon usually offer superior sound quality to all of the AAC files you’ll get from iTunes.
Hey Tim,
Thanks for commenting. And, I’m sorry you think the article is a grossly oversimplified rant, I think that’s an exaggeration – the clips are there so people can judge for themselves. But hey – as I’ve said in a comment above, it’s not meant to be a scientific analysis.
The study you link to doesn’t show that mp3 outperforms AAC at all – the iTunes encodes used were still mp3 encodes. Additionally, the study clearly shows that all the encoders tested were statistically equal in quality – but over very small samples, in general. Given that the study has no control over people’s listening software or hardware, I would also hesitate to call it scientific at all.
Regardless, my real point is: go lossless. I’m not interested in the open-source debate, I just want encoders that work and sound great with no tweaking.
My experience of mp3s from Amazon is… not good. And as I repeatedly say in the article, most people use 128kbps still, this is the widely miss-named “CD quality” standard, and that’s what I want to debunk. I see so many more articles ignoring all the problems of lossy encoding completely, than ones criticising lossy compression, and that’s what I want to redress.
So again, sorry the article annoyed you, but as someone who’s already fully engaged with the issues, you’re not really the audience I’m trying to reach.
Cheers !
Ian